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by Nick7
Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:37 pm
Forum: Technical Support
Topic: About Defer-Write and the risk of data loss on power outage
Replies: 11
Views: 4204

Re: About Defer-Write and the risk of data loss on power outage

InquiringMind, NTFS does not support out of order writes. What is does support is journaling, which is completely different thing. Windows also supports delayed writes, but they are journaled and in order. What is out of order write? Example: * You do some I/O, and what needs to be written down is i...
by Nick7
Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:52 pm
Forum: Technical Support
Topic: L2 cache verification
Replies: 11
Views: 3098

Re: L2 cache verification

@Jaga - i partly agree. I agree data integrity should be 1st. This is why using L2 for defer writes can be still safe. Take bcache as an example. It did it right. On the other hand - we also talked here about L2 read cache, and how crash handles that. Saying that L2 'resets' (I know it's wrong word,...
by Nick7
Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:01 am
Forum: Technical Support
Topic: L2 cache verification
Replies: 11
Views: 3098

Re: L2 cache verification

Please note that L2 verification is only to verify L2 data stored right at the last bootup, not the data stored before the ungraceful shutdown. Here is a detailed explaination for this. https://forum.romexsoftware.com/en-us/viewtopic.php?p=15667#p15667 Wow.. that's.. really odd design! I mean, data...
by Nick7
Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:17 pm
Forum: Technical Support
Topic: About Defer-Write and the risk of data loss on power outage
Replies: 11
Views: 4204

Re: About Defer-Write and the risk of data loss on power outage

Are you referring to "write coalescing"? If so, it is a highly useful feature that I have yet to experience problems with. Yes. In normal use it's quite useful feature, I agree. However, problem is in case of sudden power loss. If you write data in order, you can easily recover and discar...
by Nick7
Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:58 am
Forum: Technical Support
Topic: About Defer-Write and the risk of data loss on power outage
Replies: 11
Views: 4204

Re: About Defer-Write and the risk of data loss on power outage

Greatest problem with defer-write is out of order writes. This is what causes greatest issue.
Out of order writes are used to maximize and reduce writes to slow HDD.

Maybe option to disable out of order writes could be added?
by Nick7
Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:23 pm
Forum: Technical Support
Topic: Windows dual boot ruins cache ?
Replies: 8
Views: 1903

Re: Windows dual boot ruins cache ?

Drive (partition) you cache from one OS should not be mounted on other OS.
So, for that partition, go into Disk Management, and remove drive letter so it's not seen.
by Nick7
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:25 pm
Forum: Technical Support
Topic: Windows dual boot ruins cache ?
Replies: 8
Views: 1903

Re: Windows dual boot ruins cache ?

Using PrimoCache with using dual boot is dangerous and it may/will corrupt your data. Only alternative is to wipe PrimoCache cache on each boot from different OS (it's possible it does that now, not sure, haven't tried actually). Why? Imagine you were running PrimoCache, and majority of stuff you do...
by Nick7
Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:19 pm
Forum: Submit Suggestions
Topic: L1 read cache directly to L2.
Replies: 5
Views: 2878

Re: L1 read cache directly to L2.

I guess you misunderstood what he meant. Currently, when reading file it's being cached in L1. If file is bigger than L1, parts of it get pushed out (LRU algorithm). L2 cache is populated with that same data LATER, when there is no/low disk activity by reading that same data again from HDD. So whole...
by Nick7
Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:23 am
Forum: Technical Support
Topic: Data loss with defer write
Replies: 6
Views: 2071

Re: Data loss with defer write

@Jaga: I agree completely with your last post. This is my idea (or should I say request) - to have journaling for L2 when using deferred writes. For L1, ofc, makes no sense - since in case of reboot/power loss you lose L1 content anyway. @Support: I understand this would require some changes. Howeve...
by Nick7
Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:40 pm
Forum: Technical Support
Topic: Data loss with defer write
Replies: 6
Views: 2071

Re: Data loss with defer write

@Jaga: it's quite different - any proper FS, including Windows with NTFS will work differently, or should I say 'properly'. This means that if you flick power button off, there will be loss of data. Depending on type of filesystem you will either have corrupt FS, which you fix with chkdsk/fsck or si...